laudanine:

woolandcoffee:

laudanine:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’m really starting to get disillusioned with the amount of individual blame getting levied in the slow fashion movement. Like, y’all really are out here blaming poor individuals for environmental destruction because they don’t have the time, energy, or money to be making their own clothing or buying ethically produced clothing. We don’t all have the kind of salary where we can spend $65 on a t shirt from Everlane, Karen.

It’s like this, disgustingly, across the board. Usually white, middle class women, pick up on some trend that makes them feel close to Jesus or some bullshit… and then they proceed to demonize everyone who can’t live up to their white picket fence dreams.

See also: any go green movement ever, yoga, organic food, carbs vs no carbs…

So this is almost off topic, but related I suppose.

I’m definitely against fast fashion, and do not participate in that shit, but it’s not even because it’s bad for X Y or Z reason. It’s because I like having the same clothes, for a long time. I could give a fuckall about “fashion” because it’s vapid and petty and bland to me. But comfortable clothing that looks good on me is my JAM, man.

Anyway, coming from that perspective rather than an environmental/ethical one (this is me admitting my reasons are selfish y’all) then it changes the execution of slow fashion. I’m uninterested in paying $65 for a shirt that’ll last 10 years because I have $20 shirts that have lasted that long. If my goal is only to slow my consumption, there’s no reason AT ALL for that to be prohibitively expensive.

But then that makes my $20 tee from 10 years ago less cool to the “slow fashionista” who buys all hemp organic 100% vegan sandals for $200. Alternately that fashionista is just as petty and vapid as her fast fashion counterparts, so do I care?

@laudanine You completely missed my point. This isn’t about who does it better vs. who does it worst. This is about not putting the blame for the destruction caused by capitalism on the individuals who are caught in that system with no method or means of escape. It doesn’t really matter why you like slow fashion, it matters that the movement recognize the true root of the problem and address it accordingly.

No, I get that: I just wanted to point out that coture slow fashion is rediculous for the reasons you stated AS WELL AS other reasons like my selfish one.

@laudanine Okay, then please make your own post. This was specifically me talking about the issue of the slow fashion movement placing blame for the system on individuals rather than the people responsible for the fast fashion system. I also have to say that I don’t care for labeling people who like to keep up with current fashions as “petty” and “vapid.” It reeks of mysoginy and I won’t have it. That’s language typically used to describe women who are interested in fashion and are being punished for their interest simply because they’re women. If you want to talk about how people judge other people based on their clothing that’s a horse of a different color, but I have no patience for those who insult women who are interested in fashion and like to keep up with trends. That is harmful and I won’t have it.

laudanine:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’m really starting to get disillusioned with the amount of individual blame getting levied in the slow fashion movement. Like, y’all really are out here blaming poor individuals for environmental destruction because they don’t have the time, energy, or money to be making their own clothing or buying ethically produced clothing. We don’t all have the kind of salary where we can spend $65 on a t shirt from Everlane, Karen.

It’s like this, disgustingly, across the board. Usually white, middle class women, pick up on some trend that makes them feel close to Jesus or some bullshit… and then they proceed to demonize everyone who can’t live up to their white picket fence dreams.

See also: any go green movement ever, yoga, organic food, carbs vs no carbs…

So this is almost off topic, but related I suppose.

I’m definitely against fast fashion, and do not participate in that shit, but it’s not even because it’s bad for X Y or Z reason. It’s because I like having the same clothes, for a long time. I could give a fuckall about “fashion” because it’s vapid and petty and bland to me. But comfortable clothing that looks good on me is my JAM, man.

Anyway, coming from that perspective rather than an environmental/ethical one (this is me admitting my reasons are selfish y’all) then it changes the execution of slow fashion. I’m uninterested in paying $65 for a shirt that’ll last 10 years because I have $20 shirts that have lasted that long. If my goal is only to slow my consumption, there’s no reason AT ALL for that to be prohibitively expensive.

But then that makes my $20 tee from 10 years ago less cool to the “slow fashionista” who buys all hemp organic 100% vegan sandals for $200. Alternately that fashionista is just as petty and vapid as her fast fashion counterparts, so do I care?

@laudanine You completely missed my point. This isn’t about who does it better vs. who does it worst. This is about not putting the blame for the destruction caused by capitalism on the individuals who are caught in that system with no method or means of escape. It doesn’t really matter why you like slow fashion, it matters that the movement recognize the true root of the problem and address it accordingly.