thedogandthewitch:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

Has anyone else noticed how amazing it is when Pisces and Taurus come together? Like, I am a Taurus and in the past year I have made good friends with multiple Pisces and my new boyfriend is a Pisces and these have all honestly been such healthy and fulfilling relationships, where have y’all been all my life

YESSSS.

MrHW is a Taurus, I am a Pisces. He keeps me so grounded. And I encourage him to dream. It’s such a wonderful balance.

Although not a Pisces Sun I am a very strong Pisces moon and when I learned my baby on the way was going to be born during Taurus season my heart nearly burst from excitement.

Honestly my partner @burningleavesandirispetals is a Capricorn and we have a very good relationship where he helps me come back down to earth when I’ve been dreaming a lot and I encourage him to take that chance and feel the cool waters of change and engaging dreams. I think many water/earth relationships have a very good harmony to them.

I totally agree that there is some good harmony going between water/earth relationships. This is a new dynamic for me and I am honestly loving it. Like, don’t get me wrong, I have good relationships with air and fire folks too, but lately I have been developing some solid relationships with water signs (primarily Pisces) and it has been life-changing.

Has anyone else noticed how amazing it is when Pisces and Taurus come together? Like, I am a Taurus and in the past year I have made good friends with multiple Pisces and my new boyfriend is a Pisces and these have all honestly been such healthy and fulfilling relationships, where have y’all been all my life

So I saw your post about veganism and vegetarianism in my recommended and I just wanted to say my two cents. Most of us are vegetarian or vegan because the idea of eating meat disgusts us. Or in my case… Makes me severly ill ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah you’ve got to understand that I don’t give a shit about what you eat. What I don’t like is Veganism As A Movement where vegans try to make veganism the only acceptable form of eating. That movement is naive at best, and hideously destructive at worst. So eat meat, don’t eat meat, I honestly couldn’t care less, but the second you come into my house and tell me that I shouldn’t eat some chicken because quinoa is just sooooo much more environmentally friendly or whatever, then we’re going to have a problem. And for what it’s worth, the overwhelming majority of vegans I’ve met have started with “I’m vegan because I don’t like eating meat,” and then progressed to “because it’s bad for the environment, it’s murder, and you should be vegan too.” If that hasn’t been your experience, okay, but if you look at the responses to my post you would see that most people have met vegans that are closer to the type I described above.

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate vegans, veganism, and the demonization of animal agriculture as a universal bad. Fucking fight me.

SAME SAME SAME

There are so many of them here at my school and it is e x h a u s t i n g. I’m currently at a lunch event that has only vegan mac n cheese (nevermind that soy is a common allergen and no one who has a soy allergy can eat any of the lunch), because the event planners figured that the event, which is about lab-grown meat, should have an environmentally friendly lunch. The ignorance is astounding. The assumption that all plant-based food is automatically more environmentally friendly than animal-based food, the idea that immediately ending all animal agriculture right away is the key to stopping climate change, the immediate “that’s vegan bashing!” response to any form of questioning or criticism. Basically, I have been here for 20 minutes and I need a double shot of whisky and a cheeseburger.

Don’t get me started on how many of their substitutes are made of P L A S T I C, and also fall apart in a year or so.

Right?? Honestly, my personal theory is that all veganism is actually deeply rooted in an aversion to death. The whole thing is based in the idea that death is bad, and should be avoided at all cost.

I think this is true. It’s the same thinking that suggests that we need to leave forests completely alone and never cut or let them burn. That’s actually terrible management but it keeps us from “killing trees” so it must be the only ethical way… right?

Yes, I think it comes from the same place. And I get it, it’s a very simple way of thinking that seems, at least on the outside, to be right. Killing things is bad, so we should just not kill things (by the same token, making any kind of mark on the environment is bad, only pure conservation is good, and so on). But that’s a very unrealistic way of looking at things. How we feed people, and how we manage our environment is not a simple thing. It is complex, dynamic, and no one thing is going to miraculously solve our problems.

((You’re totally making sense and I don’t think I’ve ever read a discussion on this website I’ve ever agreed with more than this one!))

((I’m glad to have some reasonable people to talk to about this. The law school that I go to tends to embrace the idea that veganism = best environmental practices, and engaging in any discussion of why that might not be the case can be a dicey thing. This post genuinely started as me being annoyed that the only food on offer at this lunch time event was a vegan pasta, so I’m glad that it could grow to something a little more eloquent than me just being cranky and hungry.))

Lol you don’t go to school in Oregon do you…?

Good guess! I’m at Lewis & Clark law school in Portland. It’s been a little bit of a shock adjusting to some of the attitudes towards food here.

Ha, I was gonna guess U of O but Portland is almost as bad as Eugene. It really is a trip though – I worked at a food co-op for a couple of years and it was a learning experience for sure (especially after having lived the first 2 decades of my life in Indiana!).

Yeah it was pretty wild coming up here from the California Bay Area. I mean, there are vegans in the Bay, of course, but the whole of the Bay Area is a good-sized agricultural community, and it’s such a diverse area that the veganism movement just doesn’t have the same bite there as it does here. At least in my experience, you were more likely to get people who were militantly farm-to-table, which can be irritating, but I vastly prefer those people to vegans because they have a scooch more reason when it comes to issues of poverty and respect for traditional foodways. And of course my experience on a law campus with an animal law program is a bit strange in and of itself. But for sure, Oregon has some strange ways of approaching food that can be a little difficult for a new-comer to to adjust to.

My favorites are honestly the ones who not only want everyone to transition to a 100% plant based diet, but who also actively go after hunters / hunting programs no-holds-barred. Like no one realizes those systems are integral for the impoverished in some areas- or that they’re integral to indigenous food customs? Because Veganism is for rich white folks who don’t have to worry about food insecurity- let alone food insecurity that’s 100% directly due to their race and (usually rural) location.

I completely agree with you. As the daughter of someone who’s father had to depend on hunting to feed his family due to class and a rural location, that is a huge issue for me. Honestly, everything I want to say in response to this and about the destructiveness of veganism as a movement in general could be a many-page paper, but I’m a tired student with no time, so I’ll just reiterate that I 100% agree with this.

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate vegans, veganism, and the demonization of animal agriculture as a universal bad. Fucking fight me.

SAME SAME SAME

There are so many of them here at my school and it is e x h a u s t i n g. I’m currently at a lunch event that has only vegan mac n cheese (nevermind that soy is a common allergen and no one who has a soy allergy can eat any of the lunch), because the event planners figured that the event, which is about lab-grown meat, should have an environmentally friendly lunch. The ignorance is astounding. The assumption that all plant-based food is automatically more environmentally friendly than animal-based food, the idea that immediately ending all animal agriculture right away is the key to stopping climate change, the immediate “that’s vegan bashing!” response to any form of questioning or criticism. Basically, I have been here for 20 minutes and I need a double shot of whisky and a cheeseburger.

Don’t get me started on how many of their substitutes are made of P L A S T I C, and also fall apart in a year or so.

Right?? Honestly, my personal theory is that all veganism is actually deeply rooted in an aversion to death. The whole thing is based in the idea that death is bad, and should be avoided at all cost.

I think this is true. It’s the same thinking that suggests that we need to leave forests completely alone and never cut or let them burn. That’s actually terrible management but it keeps us from “killing trees” so it must be the only ethical way… right?

Yes, I think it comes from the same place. And I get it, it’s a very simple way of thinking that seems, at least on the outside, to be right. Killing things is bad, so we should just not kill things (by the same token, making any kind of mark on the environment is bad, only pure conservation is good, and so on). But that’s a very unrealistic way of looking at things. How we feed people, and how we manage our environment is not a simple thing. It is complex, dynamic, and no one thing is going to miraculously solve our problems.

((You’re totally making sense and I don’t think I’ve ever read a discussion on this website I’ve ever agreed with more than this one!))

((I’m glad to have some reasonable people to talk to about this. The law school that I go to tends to embrace the idea that veganism = best environmental practices, and engaging in any discussion of why that might not be the case can be a dicey thing. This post genuinely started as me being annoyed that the only food on offer at this lunch time event was a vegan pasta, so I’m glad that it could grow to something a little more eloquent than me just being cranky and hungry.))

Lol you don’t go to school in Oregon do you…?

Good guess! I’m at Lewis & Clark law school in Portland. It’s been a little bit of a shock adjusting to some of the attitudes towards food here.

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate vegans, veganism, and the demonization of animal agriculture as a universal bad. Fucking fight me.

SAME SAME SAME

There are so many of them here at my school and it is e x h a u s t i n g. I’m currently at a lunch event that has only vegan mac n cheese (nevermind that soy is a common allergen and no one who has a soy allergy can eat any of the lunch), because the event planners figured that the event, which is about lab-grown meat, should have an environmentally friendly lunch. The ignorance is astounding. The assumption that all plant-based food is automatically more environmentally friendly than animal-based food, the idea that immediately ending all animal agriculture right away is the key to stopping climate change, the immediate “that’s vegan bashing!” response to any form of questioning or criticism. Basically, I have been here for 20 minutes and I need a double shot of whisky and a cheeseburger.

Don’t get me started on how many of their substitutes are made of P L A S T I C, and also fall apart in a year or so.

Right?? Honestly, my personal theory is that all veganism is actually deeply rooted in an aversion to death. The whole thing is based in the idea that death is bad, and should be avoided at all cost.

I think this is true. It’s the same thinking that suggests that we need to leave forests completely alone and never cut or let them burn. That’s actually terrible management but it keeps us from “killing trees” so it must be the only ethical way… right?

Yes, I think it comes from the same place. And I get it, it’s a very simple way of thinking that seems, at least on the outside, to be right. Killing things is bad, so we should just not kill things (by the same token, making any kind of mark on the environment is bad, only pure conservation is good, and so on). But that’s a very unrealistic way of looking at things. How we feed people, and how we manage our environment is not a simple thing. It is complex, dynamic, and no one thing is going to miraculously solve our problems.

((You’re totally making sense and I don’t think I’ve ever read a discussion on this website I’ve ever agreed with more than this one!))

((I’m glad to have some reasonable people to talk to about this. The law school that I go to tends to embrace the idea that veganism = best environmental practices, and engaging in any discussion of why that might not be the case can be a dicey thing. This post genuinely started as me being annoyed that the only food on offer at this lunch time event was a vegan pasta, so I’m glad that it could grow to something a little more eloquent than me just being cranky and hungry.))

estfortis:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate vegans, veganism, and the demonization of animal agriculture as a universal bad. Fucking fight me.

SAME SAME SAME

There are so many of them here at my school and it is e x h a u s t i n g. I’m currently at a lunch event that has only vegan mac n cheese (nevermind that soy is a common allergen and no one who has a soy allergy can eat any of the lunch), because the event planners figured that the event, which is about lab-grown meat, should have an environmentally friendly lunch. The ignorance is astounding. The assumption that all plant-based food is automatically more environmentally friendly than animal-based food, the idea that immediately ending all animal agriculture right away is the key to stopping climate change, the immediate “that’s vegan bashing!” response to any form of questioning or criticism. Basically, I have been here for 20 minutes and I need a double shot of whisky and a cheeseburger.

Don’t get me started on how many of their substitutes are made of P L A S T I C, and also fall apart in a year or so.

Right?? Honestly, my personal theory is that all veganism is actually deeply rooted in an aversion to death. The whole thing is based in the idea that death is bad, and should be avoided at all cost.

I think this is true. It’s the same thinking that suggests that we need to leave forests completely alone and never cut or let them burn. That’s actually terrible management but it keeps us from “killing trees” so it must be the only ethical way… right?

Yes, I think it comes from the same place. And I get it, it’s a very simple way of thinking that seems, at least on the outside, to be right. Killing things is bad, so we should just not kill things (by the same token, making any kind of mark on the environment is bad, only pure conservation is good, and so on). But that’s a very unrealistic way of looking at things. How we feed people, and how we manage our environment is not a simple thing. It is complex, dynamic, and no one thing is going to miraculously solve our problems.

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

madamehearthwitch:

woolandcoffee:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate vegans, veganism, and the demonization of animal agriculture as a universal bad. Fucking fight me.

SAME SAME SAME

There are so many of them here at my school and it is e x h a u s t i n g. I’m currently at a lunch event that has only vegan mac n cheese (nevermind that soy is a common allergen and no one who has a soy allergy can eat any of the lunch), because the event planners figured that the event, which is about lab-grown meat, should have an environmentally friendly lunch. The ignorance is astounding. The assumption that all plant-based food is automatically more environmentally friendly than animal-based food, the idea that immediately ending all animal agriculture right away is the key to stopping climate change, the immediate “that’s vegan bashing!” response to any form of questioning or criticism. Basically, I have been here for 20 minutes and I need a double shot of whisky and a cheeseburger.

Don’t get me started on how many of their substitutes are made of P L A S T I C, and also fall apart in a year or so.

Right?? Honestly, my personal theory is that all veganism is actually deeply rooted in an aversion to death. The whole thing is based in the idea that death is bad, and should be avoided at all cost.